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The next step – my personal BOT
A few decades have passed. I’ve worked with IT for the past 25 years. In the different areas. Of course I got involved when the Internet came into being. Not at the forefront. But I can still remember the days when HTML was announced. Where every page was created manually. Where there were no templates yet. So I also had my own website. At some point I changed over. On a blog. And I’ve been blogging since October 2010. Now in two languages. More and more about one topic: About the technology of cooperation. Groove, SkyDrive and now OneDrive. So over 950 articles were created. Individual sections that are not able to describe the possibilities and scenarios that differ from many companies. Of course, my blog will find the people who can use a search engine. If you know what they’re looking for. Because searching needs to be learned. At some point Microsoft gave me the nickname Mr.OneDrive. And now everyone knows me under this name around the planet.
But with the many small and large events and conferences, I only ever reach a small number of people. Even less, but more intensive are, of course, all-day OneDrive workshops on site. Not only can I see the question mark in the eyes of the participants here, I can also respond intensively and quickly. Individually. And it doesn’t matter whether the company has 20 or 100,000 employees. Yes, I can be bought.
I don’t need a website (anymore). Because the content is static, it has to be renewed again and again. The maintenance is (very) complex. And actually, the manufacturer should have documentation. And at OneDrive, Microsoft has now published an impressive number of articles at docs.microsoft.com. But how many people do not know exactly what you are looking for when it comes to the interaction of the individual technical components in the collaboration in all its facets. And even a blog cannot help because it only shows individual sections.
Unfortunately, my daily workshops also have a disadvantage because there are too many companies and I unfortunately only speak two languages. But the technology is with the cloud and AI (artificial intelligence) makes it possible to clone myself. Or to take it to the next level. At least as far as my knowledge of working with OneDrive is concerned. And not just in the two languages, but in more than 50 languages. Around the clock. for 24 hours. Because Mr.OneDrive’s bot doesn’t need sleep.
Everyone will be able to install the bot within Microsoft Teams from the Microsoft Store. And then I am ready and willingly provide information. Anytime. In (almost) every language.
Before you start looking, slowly. I still cannot connect the PC to my brain and transfer the thoughts. This will also take a while with bot development. From the idea in July 2019 in a small feedback session with two MVP colleagues, it took a long time before Thomy Gölles and Stephan Bisser confronted me with the first bot prototype at SharePoint Saturday in Munich at the end of November 2019. And I’ve been collecting questions since mid-December. Questions about OneDrive and OneDrive for Business. And write down the answers. Of course with pictures. And links. To my blog. Or to the original documentation from Microsoft. There are still a few stumbling blocks to be cleared out of the way. I’ll write about that too.
There is still a little time left. Until the first version of the bot is ready for testing. Stay tuned and fill out the this form to be one of the first to get the BOT for Microsoft Teams (PreView).
CDC Germany 2020 – Cloud & Datacenter Conference Germany
Für mich ist es das dritte Mal. Das dritte Mal in Hanau. Dieses Jahr am 13.&14. Mai 2020. Ich freue mich, als Sprecher mit dabei zu sein. Natürlich zum Thema OneDrive. Der genaue Vortragstitel lautet:
Is OneDrive really Enterprise ready?
Keine Angst, ich Der Vortrag wird in deutscher Sprache gehalten. Also dann mal gleich registrieren.
OneDrive Issues with Windows 10 Insider 19564.1005
This is only for people, using Windows 10 in the Insider channel (19564.1005).OneDrive (Next generation Sync Client) does not work anymore. It starts, you find the app in Taskmanager, but then it consumes up to 35% CPU power, no Icon established in the notification area. You got no error message.
So for me it looks for an authentification error, and there is no workaround this time.
Microsoft has to be informed about this bug.
If You work (heavy) with OneDrive, you should not install this Isider Build of Windows 10 or go back to the old version of Windows 10.
[Update 02/16/20]
So I got some information from friends around the globe. The only way is hard, and you need a Office Insiders version of your Sync client with the version 20.033.0213.0001. But if you have this version of OneDriveSetup.exe, you got an error, which says, you cannot install it, bevore you have deinstalled the old version. Means Deinstall the old version AND the configuration. And then you have to configure your stuff manually.
[Update 02/20/20]
Microsoft has shown reaction. in two diffrent ways. First, the OneDrive Product Group has published a new Version of the Next Generation sync Client: 20.028.0206.0003 and Second, the supposed culprit, The Windows Insider Version with the number 19564.1005 will be replaced with 19569.1000. And here OneDrive is running again.
Comments:
Why Does Microsoft bring a new Windows Insider Version on a friday?
OneDrive Quiz | Answer #01
The first round is over. And on the various Socila Media channels I have received countless answers. Some wrote that the question had not been formulated exactly. That’s right. But like this or similar, I get questions via Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn or email. Here again the question and the choice of answers
Question #01
A File, which is synchronizing with OneDrive for Business, will be selected by a User in Windows Explorer and deleted with SHIFT-DEL. Is this File lost forever?
Answer A
The file can be recovered from the recycle bin of the computer
Answer B
The file can only be restored from the server-based recycle bin.
Answer C
Since there is no local backup, the file is irretrievably lost
With the answer C you were wrong. The question mentioned that the file is synced to OneDrive for Business. And about the process, was / is, the file has already arrived in the cloud, one may argue.
Who typed A, was wrong. When a file is deleted using the shortcut SHIFT DEL, it will be deleted immediately. Without being moved to the "local" paper basket. This also applies to files that are displayed in Files OnDemand with "Only available in the Claud" and are deleted by the user. However, because the file was synced with OneDrive For Business, a command is sent to the SharePoint Site Collection, which moves the file to the Recycle Bin of the SharePoint Collection OneDrive for Business. This is also described in detail here. It is also interesting to note how long the data remains in the OneDrive recycle bin.
The answer B was correct. What’s also interesting is what happens if the file is deleted while the computer has no Internet or the Next Generation Sync Client (OneDrive.exe) is not started or paused. The file is deleted without being moved to the trash of the device. If the pause mode is canceled or the computer has Internet again, it is determined during the synchronization, the file was deleted and the file is then also moved to the recycle bin of OneDrive for Business.
The question is also what happens if I have several computers and the file was synchronized on several computers. Then, the following is done
- File is executed on the device on the SHIFT DEL we deleted immediately.
- File is moved to the folder in OneDrive for Business
- Next computer: File is deleted and moves to the local paper basket
- Next computer: …
This brings me to the note from your replies, "the file should always be restored from the server-based wastebasket of OneDrive for Business", and not from the local recycle bin?
If versioning is not switched off, a new version is written each time the file is edited. The Windows Explorer or the Apple variant of File Finder are the representation layer of SharePoint / OneDrive for Business. The files in Windows Explorer / File Finder are always the latest version. If a file is restored from the local recycle bin, only the "last" version will be restored. All older versions are lost. If we restore from the OneDrive for Business Recycle Bin, "all" versions will be restored.
Last but not least: file has been deleted. And let’s say it’s an Office file like Word, Excel or PowerPoint. If we launch the Office application and the file appears in the list, Office is so smart that the file is opened, but with the note that the file has been deleted, moved or renamed. Please save the file as a copy. But here too the previous versions are lost.
Thank you for the many feedbacks partly with explanations. You see deleting and deleting is a difference.
Soon next question 2 follows ….
OneDrive Quiz | Antwort #01
Die erste Runde ist vorbei. Und auf den verschiedenen Socila Media Kanälen habe ich unzählige Antworten erhalten. Einige habe geschrieben, die Frage sei nicht exakt fomuliert worden. Das ist richtig. Aber so oder ähnlich erhalte ich Fragen per Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn oder per EMail. Hier nochmals die Frage und die Auswahl der Antworten
Frage #01
Eine Datei, welche in OneDrive for Business synchronisiert wird, wird von einem Benutzer im Windows Explorer selektiert und mit SHIFT-DEL gelöscht. Ist die Datei jetzt unwiderruflich verloren?
Antwort A
Die Datei kann aus dem Papierkorb des Rechners wiederhergestellt werden.
Antwort B
Die Datei kann nur noch aus dem serverbasierenden Papierkorb widerhergestellt werden.
Antwort C
Da keine lokale Datensicherung existiert, ist die Datei unwiderruflich verloren.
Mit der Antwort C lagen Sie falsch. In der Frage wurde ja erwähnt, dass die Datei zu OneDrive for Business synchronisiert wird. Und über den Prozess, wurde /wird, ist die Datei schon in der Cloud angekommen, mag man diskutieren.
Wer auf A getippt hat, lag falsch. Wenn eine Datei mit der Tastenkomination SHIFT DEL gelöscht wird, wird sie unmittelbar gelöscht. Ohne in den “lokalen” Paperkorb verschoben zu werden. Das gilt auch für Dateien, die bei Files OnDemand mit “Nur in der Claud verfügbar” angezeigt werden und vom Benutzer gelöscht werden. Da die Datei aber mit OneDrive For Business synchronisiert wurde, wird ein Befehl an die SharePoint Site Collection versendet, und damit wird die Date in den Papierkorb der SharePoint Collection OneDrive for Business verschoben. Das wird hier auch ausführlich beschrieben. Interessant sind auch die Hinweise, wie lange die Daten im Papierkorb von OneDrive verbleiben.
Die Antwort B war also richtig. Interssant ist aber auch, was passiert, wenn die Datei gelöscht wird, während der Rechner kein Internet hat, oder der Next Generation Sync Client (OneDrive.exe) nicht gestartet ist oder paussiert. Die Datei wird gelöscht, ohne in den Papierkorb des Gerätes verschoben wird. Wird der Pausen-Modus aufgehoben bzw. hat der Rechner wieder Internet, so wird beim Abgleich festgestellt, das die Datei gelöscht wurde und die Datei wird dann ebenfalls in den Papierkorb von OneDrive for Business verschoben.
Die Frage ist auch, was passiert, wenn ich mehrere Rechner habe und die Datei auf mehreren Rechnern synchronisrt wurde. Dann wird folgendes ausgeführt
- Datei wird auf dem Gerät auf dem SHIFT DEL ausgeführt wir unmittelbar gelöscht.
- Datei wird in OneDrive for Business in den Paperkorb verschoben
- Nächster Rechner: Datei wird gelöscht und wandert in den lokalen Paperkorb
- Nächster Rechner: …
Damit komme ich zum Hinweis aus Euren Antworten, “die Datei soll immer aus dem Server basierenden Papierkorb von OneDrive for Business wiederhergestellt werden”, und nicht aus dem lokalen Papierkorb?
Wenn die Versionierung nicht ausgeschaltet ist, wird bei jedem Bearbeiten eine neue Version geschrieben. Der Windows Explorer oder in der Apple-Variante der File Finder sind die Repräsentations-Schicht von SharePoint / OneDrive for Business. Die Dateien in Windows Explorer /File Finder sind immer die neuste Version. Wird jetzt eine Datei aus dem lokalen Papierkorb restauriert, wird nur die “letzte” Version restauriert. Alle Älteren Versionen gehen verloren. Restaurieren wir aus dem OneDrive for Business Papierkorb, werden “alle” Versionen widerhergestellt.
Zu guter Letzt: Datei wurde gelöscht. Und nehmen wir an, es handelt sich um eine Office Datei wie Word, Excel oder PowerPoint. Starten wir die Office Applikation und taucht die Datei noch in der Liste auf, dann ist Office so intelligent, dass die Datei geöffnet wird, allerdings mit dem Hinweis, dass die Datei gelöscht, verschoben oder umbenannt wurde. Man möge bitte die Datei als Kopie speichern. Aber auch hier gehen die vorherigen Versionen verloren.
Vielen Dank für die vielen Rückmeldungen zum Teil mit Erklärungen. Man sieht Löschen und Löschen ist ein Unterschied.
Demnächst folgt dann Frage 2….
OneDrive Quiz | Frage #01 – Question #1
Ich habe hier eine neue Reihe aufgelegt. Hier kann sich jeder selbst testen. Nach 2 Tagen werden hier auch die Antworten erläutert.
I have created a new series here. Everyone can test themselves here. After 2 days, the answers are explained here.
Frage #01 – Question #01
Eine Datei, welche in OneDrive for Business synchronisiert wird, wird von einem Benutzer im Windows Explorer selektiert und mit SHIFT-DEL gelöscht. Ist die Datei jetzt unwiderruflich verloren?
A File, which is synchronizing with OneDrive for Business, will be selected by a User in Windows Explorer and deleted with SHIFT-DEL. Is this File lost forever?
Antwort A – Answer A
Die Datei kann aus dem Papierkorb des Rechners wiederhergestellt werden.
The file can be recovered from the recycle bin of the computer
Antwort B – Answer B
Die Datei kann nur noch aus dem serverbasierenden Papierkorb widerhergestellt werden.
The file can only be restored from the server-based recycle bin.
Antwort C – Answer C
Da keine lokale Datensicherung existiert, ist die Datei unwiderruflich verloren.
Since there is no local backup, the file is irretrievably lost
MSIgnite 2019 – I speak at Orlando about OneDrive
Same location as last year: Orlando, Florida. A little bit later in the calendar, to avoid Hurricans. More then 25000 IT-People will attend The Microsoft Ignite 2019
I have two Sessions there and I’m proud to talk about
"More Value: B2B Sync with OneDrive"
. More and more companies are in the cloud or going into the cloud. With Office 365 and Collaboration B2B Sync (Business to Business Synchronization) Microsoft is going to enhance such capabilities. This session describes the core principles for syncing from OneDrive to B2B, explains the details for a B2B Synchronization, has a live demo with a complete setup and summarizes the add value of B2B for companies. Learn how easy the job is to implement external users, have full control, and speed up collaboration processes.
The Session codse is BRK3157
The second Session is a Theater Session
“OneDrive Group Policies – not only for the enterprise”
More and more Group Policies for OneDrive and for Windows 10 were established to give administrators control over devices, storage, and behavior. This session describes the user behavior to sync many files from different libraries for collaboration, not only from their own tenant, but also from other tenants through B2B sync, and give the administrators full control via Group Policies. These GPOs not only for OneDrive, but also for the different devices, control Windows 10 through OneDrive Files on Demand and Storage Sense, and also help user behavior of deleting files by mistake. It includes my Top 10 of Group Policies for OneDrive
The Session Code is THR2345
See you in one or both session?
Wolfgang Miedl – Sharepoint360
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